True, Exiting game and Fisher did not come up the way I wanted him to, but scottie did have an outstanding 40 points just like you said pete...nice call!
Got home from the game at 4:00AM (Northern VA). Worth the trip. First and second halves were two different games in terms of Nova intensity. Scottie and Dante played superbly throughout. I focused on Reggie in second half and he was all over Hazel. It was as if his intense "D" triggered offensive enthusiasm/energy - he was confident and aggressive on both ends. I saw this same thing in the game against Rhode Island in the Palestra. Little mentioned was Dwayne Anderson's active engagement on "D" and the boards.
Seton Hall's Hazel is a real flopper - and it was clear the refs knew it. Every three ball he puts up (and they are numerous) he flops. Reminds me of that clown from Clemson (was it Clemson?) who kept drawing fouls from Fisher shooting threes in NCAAs. If this was last season there would have been a fouled called on Nova as Hazel banked in that three at the buzzer!
I love Jay - but - at the end of regulation whe Scottie went to the line with 24 seconds to go - I told everyone around me...if he makes both (we go up three) - Jay has to tell the team to foul on the floor (6th and then 7th) and not let a three ball tie the game. When he didn't call for the 7th foul - I got accused of jinxing the regulation outcome - but that is the right call and he should have made it. Could have cost us the game. I admit that one can argue we won, therefore he made the right call. An aggressive coach takes away the three ball as a means to tie the game. We won and I had enough adrenaline to drive home awake in the icy/rain.
Looking forward to next win at the Wachovia Center Saturday.
Wow, Scottie was on fire and led the team to victory like he did so many times in previous years. On a side note, was Taylor King not allowed on the bench? (He was sitting in the stands 5 seats to the right of me.) I must say that was also quite impressed with Clark's Mario abilities. Dante and Anderson always came in second.
Hey Special K, Great coaching. Lets give the Hall a 7th foul to put them on the line for a 1 and 1 so they can draw within 1 and then they steal the ball on our in bounds (Or we have a 5 second violation, or we throw the ball away) and they make a 2 TO WIN.
Whoa - spoken like a real expert. Bobby Knight, Jim Boeheim, Digger Phelps (to name a few with a few more coaching wins than I - but maybe not "the pope") routinely endorse the coaching move I called for. That end of game scenario plays out more often than it may seem. Takes the confidence and execution of a winner to do it. Of course, on the other hand, the patented Nova inbounds plays could result as you describe. Maybe for those two sets of reasons it would not be a smart move for this team/coach.
Congratulations on an outstanding accomplishment and degree at NPS!
There may be no one right answer.It may depend on the exact game situation and teams and players involved.
My thought was that the Hall was shooting 3's terrible in the game, BUT they were hitting their foul shots. I think RR also held the kid who hit the "prayer" pretty much in check during the second 1/2.
To give a foul at an exact correct moment is difficult (like the guy might throw up a shot just when the foul is being given).
If on the other hand they were shooting FT's like Memphis did in last years Championship game against Kansas or like Houston Vs NC State back in the day, the foul to me would seem "right".
I know you can argue it's a move made from strength. But to me it's like playing not to lose.
To me we were the superior team and I have faith our guys can play D and execute when it counts.
Anyway, I've belabored it enough. My apologies for the criticism. It's starting to snow and I'm going to the game.
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This was Villanova's first overtime game in nearly three years! On March 24, 2006, Villanova defeated BC in overtime in the NCAA tournament.
True, Exiting game and Fisher did not come up the way I wanted him to, but scottie did have an outstanding 40 points just like you said pete...nice call!
Got home from the game at 4:00AM (Northern VA). Worth the trip. First and second halves were two different games in terms of Nova intensity. Scottie and Dante played superbly throughout. I focused on Reggie in second half and he was all over Hazel. It was as if his intense "D" triggered offensive enthusiasm/energy - he was confident and aggressive on both ends. I saw this same thing in the game against Rhode Island in the Palestra. Little mentioned was Dwayne Anderson's active engagement on "D" and the boards.
Seton Hall's Hazel is a real flopper - and it was clear the refs knew it. Every three ball he puts up (and they are numerous) he flops. Reminds me of that clown from Clemson (was it Clemson?) who kept drawing fouls from Fisher shooting threes in NCAAs. If this was last season there would have been a fouled called on Nova as Hazel banked in that three at the buzzer!
I love Jay - but - at the end of regulation whe Scottie went to the line with 24 seconds to go - I told everyone around me...if he makes both (we go up three) - Jay has to tell the team to foul on the floor (6th and then 7th) and not let a three ball tie the game. When he didn't call for the 7th foul - I got accused of jinxing the regulation outcome - but that is the right call and he should have made it. Could have cost us the game. I admit that one can argue we won, therefore he made the right call. An aggressive coach takes away the three ball as a means to tie the game. We won and I had enough adrenaline to drive home awake in the icy/rain.
Looking forward to next win at the Wachovia Center Saturday.
Wow, Scottie was on fire and led the team to victory like he did so many times in previous years. On a side note, was Taylor King not allowed on the bench? (He was sitting in the stands 5 seats to the right of me.) I must say that was also quite impressed with Clark's Mario abilities. Dante and Anderson always came in second.
What's Clark's character? I always go with Yoshi.
Clark is Toad, but Dante is Yoshi.
DA JUREE
Hey Special K,
Great coaching. Lets give the Hall a 7th foul to put them on the line for a 1 and 1 so they can draw within 1 and then they steal the ball on our in bounds (Or we have a 5 second violation, or we throw the ball away) and they make a 2 TO WIN.
Pope of the hardwoods tell us how you really feel
Hey B,
You're right. Much too harsh a comment. Never again.
Pope of the Hardwood,
Whoa - spoken like a real expert. Bobby Knight, Jim Boeheim, Digger Phelps (to name a few with a few more coaching wins than I - but maybe not "the pope") routinely endorse the coaching move I called for. That end of game scenario plays out more often than it may seem. Takes the confidence and execution of a winner to do it. Of course, on the other hand, the patented Nova inbounds plays could result as you describe. Maybe for those two sets of reasons it would not be a smart move for this team/coach.
Hey Special K,
Maybe you can refer me to exactly where Knight, Phelps and Boeheim routinely support your proposed strategy.
Never the less, you may be right based on the below.
http://www.sportsquant.com/AnnisJQAS1030.pdf
BUT I'm with Mark Few, Jay Bilas and George Blaney to name some. Of course not as distinguished as the names you dropped OR maybe your experience.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1208/is_n9_v221/ai_19182458
BTW, great insinuations at the end of your post.
pope,
Those are great references on the topic - especially the quantitative decision analysis paper from NPS (where I earned my masters by the way).
I cannot provide the exact reference you ask for. The discussion/topic arose post-game during a televised event with same scenario last season.
I appreciate the thoughtful reply.
Where's Pete?
Rooting for Miami, prepping for next year
Preview is up -- get your guess in before the noon tip
By the way, I agree you have to foul in that situation.
POTH is right; Jay Wright, as usual, is wrong.
Hey Special K,
Congratulations on an outstanding accomplishment and degree at NPS!
There may be no one right answer.It may depend on the exact game situation and teams and players involved.
My thought was that the Hall was shooting 3's terrible in the game, BUT they were hitting their foul shots. I think RR also held the kid who hit the "prayer" pretty much in check during the second 1/2.
To give a foul at an exact correct moment is difficult (like the guy might throw up a shot just when the foul is being given).
If on the other hand they were shooting FT's like Memphis did in last years Championship game against Kansas or like Houston Vs NC State back in the day, the foul to me would seem "right".
I know you can argue it's a move made from strength. But to me it's like playing not to lose.
To me we were the superior team and I have faith our guys can play D and execute when it counts.
Anyway, I've belabored it enough. My apologies for the criticism. It's starting to snow and I'm going to the game.
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